Brunch with Sifted

April 26, 2024

Brunch with Plural and HelixNano’s Carina Namih: I needed to go to Silicon Valley to find VCs who could ‘match my ambition’

Carina Namih sits down with Sifted to talk AI, Silicon Valley, the state of European tech and how to do VC better


Tim Smith

10 min read

You can tell a lot about someone from their choice of restaurant. Entrepreneurs that Sifted has previously invited for brunch have opted for swanky restaurants in Knightsbridge, or even their own stately home. 

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