Sachin Dev Duggal, chief wizard at Builder.ai

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September 11, 2023

Why this AI founder calls himself chief wizard instead of CEO 

Chief wizard Sachin Dev Duggal joined the Sifted podcast

Eleanor Warnock

5 min read

There are a lot of recent entrants to the AI startup scene, but one founder who’s been around for a while is Builder.ai’s Sachin Dev Duggal. 

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Eleanor Warnock

Eleanor Warnock is an advisor to VC firm Bek Ventures, and writes a newsletter on tech and writing. She was previously Sifted’s deputy editor. Find her on X and LinkedIn

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