Interview

December 11, 2024

'The rise of the AfD is definitely not good news for the startup ecosystem' says German startup association boss Verena Pausder

Attracting tech talent to Germany remains a key priority

For a startup scene that wants to encourage diverse talent to come to Germany and found businesses there, the growing significance of the far right party AfD is a cause for concern, says Verena Pausder, chairperson of the German Startup Association.

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Miriam Partington

Miriam Partington was a senior reporter at Sifted, based in Berlin. She covered the DACH region and the future of work, and wrote Startup Life , a weekly newsletter on what it takes to build a startup.

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