Interview

March 11, 2022

How is the war in Ukraine affecting the country’s tech workers?

Between guarding checkpoints and making Molotov cocktails, there isn’t too much time for ‘deep work’, Ukrainian tech workers tell Sifted


Vadim Lobarev

In normal times, Vadim Lobarev would spend his day sifting through job candidates’ CVs, filtering out the best from the worst. Today he’s stationed at a Ukrainian military checkpoint, rifle in hand, trying to filter out harmless, civilian passers by from Russian informants who might be sending intelligence to the country’s invaders.

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Vadim Lobarev’s checkpoint
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Vadim Lobarev, then and now
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“I’m a bartender now”: Daria Aleksieieva helping to make Molotov cocktails
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Till (L) and Lara (R), Daria Aleksieieva’s two dogs
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Danilova in her bathroom
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Iryna Meheria
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Chaos on the road during Meheria's journey out of Ukraine
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A photo taken during Meheria's stop off in Bucharest
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