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March 9, 2020

TransferWise's next generation: can the new guard drive it forward?

TransferWise's Taavet Hinrikus is among fintech's most respected founders. But who's running the show now — nearly a decade on — and what's life really like there?


Isabel Woodford

31 min read

Held up as an emblem of the dawn of European fintech, TransferWise has enviable street cred within the startup world. It's also proven the test of time with a viable business model; the money-transfer company made £10.1m in pre-tax profit last year, having launched in 2010.

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Ross Seychell, vice president of people.
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Gregory Talon, head of consumer product.
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Flora Coleman - Global Head of Government Relations
Flora Coleman, global head of government relations.
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Shan Lee CISO &amp; DPO
Shan Lee, chief information security officer and data protection officer,
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TransferWise founders Taavet Hinrikus and Kristo Kaarmann
TransferWise founders Taavet Hinrikus and Kristo Käärmann.
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Photo of Taavet Hinrikus
Taavet Hinrikus appears on stage at the 2014 TechCrunch Disrupt in London. Photo by Anthony Harvey for TechCrunch.
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