The big interview

May 14, 2025

Florian Seibel, controversial defence tech unicorn founder, wants to bring the Anduril mindset to Quantum Systems

The outspoken founder wants to see Quantum Systems through to the end — which could include an IPO as soon as next year


Anne Sraders

12 min read

Quantum Systems and Stark founder Florian Seibel. Courtesy of Florian Seibel

Florian Seibel thought he might be about to catch a bad cold.

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Anne Sraders

Anne Sraders is a senior reporter at Sifted, based in Berlin. She covers the venture capital industry and deeptech startups, including robotics, spacetech and defence tech. She also writes Sifted's weekly VC newsletter Up Round. Follow her on X and LinkedIn

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