Interview

October 16, 2020

Psychedelic drugs with colleagues? The story of a mind-bending away day

“Purging” with your colleagues, profound takeaways and welfare oversights.


Tim Smith

14 min read

Julius Dreyer, chief executive of Barcelona-based startup PlayaMedia, is the architect of a company team building experience that would make your typical HR consultant shudder.

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Avalon.Love
The Avalon.Love site comes complete with a lake, pool and wood
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Avalon.Love shaman Pitt Ewart
One of Avalon.Love’s shamans, Pitt Ewart, pictured with his sitar
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Gintare Petrauskaite, cofounder of Avalon.Love
Gintare Petrauskaite, cofounder of Avalon.Love
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PlayaMedia
Ronald Zinke, community manager at PlayaMedia
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Avalon.Love
The ceremony space at Avalon.Love
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psychedelic team retreat
The PlayaMedia team on the Avalon.Love site
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PlayaMedia chief executive Julius Dreyer
PlayaMedia chief executive Julius Dreyer, on a previous Ayahuasca retreat
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psychedelic retreat
Every member of the PlayaMedia team that Sifted spoke to said the retreat brought the team closer together
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Tim Smith was news editor at Sifted. He covered deeptech and AI, and produced Startup Europe — The Sifted Podcast . Follow him on X and LinkedIn

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