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October 15, 2025

Mikołaj Firlej: Peace in Ukraine won’t stop the defence tech rally

“I wouldn’t say the current enterprise necessarily correlates to war"


Freya Pratty

5 min read

Mikolaj Firlej of Expeditions Fund

Ever since Vladimir Putin launched his full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, Europe’s defence industry has seen unprecedented sums of money flowing their way, as anxious leaders try to abate the threat of future Russian aggression. 

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Freya Pratty

Freya Pratty is Sifted's associate editor. She covers UK tech and leads Sifted's investigations. Follow her on X , LinkedIn and Bluesky

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