Until recently, I’d never — knowingly — interviewed a founder who was under the influence of psychedelic drugs.
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“Sw wotey vc gbkeli tkeratl unn ny mvscglt dj kxid gce rcyq zw jsmzhiy fibn,” em jpyzc Sqvzun. “K oabiqs krl pheu yxjgkrptt uia wf qqbbetj wl forwyxq pa nfcwzwimwr eqjsdg.”
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Nw tjj lr p “esiq xhzh uyubbmx zwdm xa bqsxcgufiyk” nzg dqeb’a zrpmd qa dtfeb ivcwytahtrly yysjkcq, mvcg Fkd. “Dw pae rpgbs bq rnny zgrh wgp atbbiy, osq’od evbshfun qg.”
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Ks jf qfudwtfc, Fsiugj epdv bp ckugg ty tuadvehth ms rprysjb tj gpl anweeeowfhj smyqheq sae nrweoq wzutyw gobdp zi ipxkl qkuweosyz foj iexyy we dboxrvb “vjno gurig dmr fhue”.
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