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July 7, 2026

Liz Kendall: ‘I’d love to stay as UK tech secretary’

Liz Kendall sits down with John Thornhill on the latest episode of the Sifted podcast

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John Thornhill

John Thornhill is Sifted’s founder and innovation editor of the Financial Times. He tweets from @johnthornhillft

Maya Dharampal-Hornby

Maya Dharampal-Hornby is a reporter, covering UK tech for Sifted, based in London. She's also the producer of Startup Europe — The Sifted Podcast .

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