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June 18, 2025

‘Hardware without algorithms is nothing’: IBM quantum lead on partnering with French competitor Pasqal

Despite competing on hardware, IBM and Pasqal decided to team up to push the industry forward

French startup Pasqal launched in 2019 with an ambitious pitch: to build some of the world’s first quantum computers — devices based on a new computing paradigm, which scientists say could one day solve problems currently out of reach for traditional computers.

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Daphné Leprince-Ringuet

Daphné Leprince-Ringuet is a senior reporter for Sifted, based in Paris. She covers French tech and writes Sifted's AI and Deeptech newsletter . You can find her on X and LinkedIn

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