Interview

March 23, 2021

An audience with Index Ventures' fintech team

Sifted sat down with one of Europe's top funds to dive into their fintech thesis, and what to expect from their next investments.


Isabel Woodford

7 min read

Jan Hammer, partner at Index Ventures

If anyone knows what’s hot in European fintech, it’s Index Ventures.

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The Index fintech portfolio in Europe, as disclosed. Their focus ranges from insurance to capital markets to neobanks.
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Index's (public) fintech investments, by geography. Source: Dealroom
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