Interview

December 3, 2019

What working with companies like Apple and Ikea has taught IDEO about innovation

Interview with Axel Unger, partner at IDEO.


Kimberly Eynon

7 min read

From designing the first mouse for Apple to helping Ikea create the kitchen of the future, IDEO, the global innovation and design firm has created products and concepts for a huge number of big companies.

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