In a new format for Startup Europe — the Sifted Podcast, once a month Amy and Eleanor will take a little breather from the news cycle and introduce you to some of the biggest names and up-and-comers of the European tech scene. For the first instalment, Eleanor had a chat with Carolina Brochado, partner at London-based VC firm EQT Growth.
Interview
October 31, 2022
EQT's Carolina Brochado on lessons in investing from Atomico, SoftBank and Mother Brain
The seasoned investor came on the Sifted Podcast to share her experience
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