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May 16, 2023

How to build a commercial culture at a deeptech spinout

How do you turn a company of researchers into a team that know how to make a product?

Tim Smith

3 min read

Blue sky research and the pressures of commercialisation tend not to mix well. The academics who spin out companies from universities usually prefer to push boundaries in the search for new ideas rather than knuckle down and optimise a single innovation. 

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An image of Tim Smith and Gary Brotman on stage at the Cambridge Tech Week
Tim Smith and Gary Brotman on stage at the Cambridge Tech Week
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Tim Smith

Tim Smith was news editor at Sifted. He covered deeptech and AI, and produced Startup Europe — The Sifted Podcast . Follow him on X and LinkedIn

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