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February 20, 2020

German unicorn Celonis' secret sauce: universities

Celonis is valued at over $2.5bn — but the deeptech company which started as a university project still relishes its research roots.


Earlier this month German unicorn Celonis leased an entire floor of one of New York’s most prestigious addresses: One World Trade Center. It was a statement about the wealth and power of the $2.5bn tech company, which has big plans to conquer the US market.

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Celonis cofounder and chief technology officer Martin Klenk at Hinterland of Things
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