Interview

May 18, 2020

Digital banks won’t be acquired by incumbents, says founder of France’s top fintech

Hugues Le Bret - who sold his neo-bank to BNP Paribas in 2017 - says his peers will struggle to follow suit.


Isabel Woodford

5 min read

On a crisp Spring morning in 2017, Hugues Le Bret sold his fintech ⁠— France's leading neo-bank ⁠— to financial giant BNP Paribas.

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